Pete Enns & The Bible for Normal People

Interview with Pete Wehner: Faith, Politics, & Polarization

In this episode of The Bible for Normal People Podcast, Pete and Jared talk with political commentator and columnist, Pete Wehner, about the mixing of faith and politics as they explore the following questions: 

  • How has Pete Wehner’s faith informed his politics?
  • How can the mix of politics and faith be both beneficial and destructive?
  • Why is evangelical Christianity so susceptible to being co-opted by political agendas?
  • Why do evangelicals continue to support Trump?
  • How has the current political state affected the future of the church?
  • Does the media accurately portray “evangelicals”?
  • Why is it important to remain enchanted with the world?
  • How do evangelicals view Trump?
  • How has Pete Wehner seen a shift in evangelical’s view of Trump over the last couple of years?
  • How much should Christians lean on politics?
  • How can we look at younger generations for hope?
  • Is there a legitimate concern for the loss of religious freedom? 
  • How do we see an apocalyptic mindset in politics today? 
  • What has Pete Wehner learned over the years about debating politics with others?


Pithy, shareable, less-than-280-character statements from Pete Wehner you can share. 

  • “Faith should inform politics… because I think politics has to do with justice, and human flourishing and human dignity.”  @Peter_Wehner
  • “I think that throughout the history of the country and throughout the history of the world, some of the most important social advancements have happened because faith has informed how people have acted.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I’ve always been very, very wary of how easy it is for faith to get corrupted by politics and for people to subordinate faith to politics and that politics becomes a prism through which people view faith.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I don’t know that there’s been any group that is more susceptible to the temptations of power than, particularly, evangelical Christians.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “To understand this current political moment, it’s much more important to understand psychology than it is to understand politics.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I believe that sometimes viruses create their own antibodies.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I think what we’re seeing right now is sort of the death throes of an old movement.” @Peter_Wehner

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A Contemplative Look at The Bible with Richard Rohr

Interview with Richard Rohr: A Contemplative Look at The Bible

March 12, 2018

In this episode of The Bible for Normal People Podcast, Pete and Jared talk with Fr. Richard Rohr about a contemplative approach to the Bible, and they explore the following questions:

  • How would Richard Rohr answer the question: “What is the Bible?”
  • How can the Bible be normative and set trajectories?
  • What does inspiration mean when we’re talking about the Bible?
  • How does Richard Rohr filter and read the Bible?
  • Why and how did Protestant and Catholic traditions take different approaches to scripture and external authority?
  • What’s the path Richard Rohr found to being able to hold the three elements of his triangle that are all in some sense an authority but maybe not the authority?
  • What does Fr. Rohr say about René Gerard and the Bible as a text in travail?
  • Does Richard rohr see in the New Testament a need for an evolution of religious consciousness or is all of the New Testament simply the last word?
  • How can we see the prophets non-dualistically?
  • How can we understand biblical stories like Ananias and Sapphira or the book of Revelation, which looks pretty retributive?
  • How can we still read the Bible and look for meaning?
  • Which comes first: reading the Bible or experience?
  • How does the Bible fit into Christian reconstruction of faith?
  • Why and how does the Bible teach great truths through story?
  • How do we let God out of the box?

There are a few episodes that we think just deserve to be republished and reissued from previous seasons. And today is our first go at that. This is the second episode we ever aired on the Bible for Normal People podcast.

This is a re-broadcast from March 26, 2017 (Episode 2).


Pithy, shareable, less-than-280-character statements you can share. 

  • “In our understanding of who God is, God becomes less violent, less punitive, more inclusive, less tribal–that to me is pretty obvious. And I think it’s what we meant when we said that we read the scriptures in the light of Jesus.” – RichardRohrOFM
  • “God’s invasion into human consciousness, albeit a positive invasion, was always filtered through our capacity to hear it and in our capacity to receive it.” RichardRohrOFM
  • “Jesus himself, Paul himself…this is undeniable…they trust their own experience of God against their own scriptures.” RichardRohrOFM
  • “This is obvious to me that we all lead with our own experience. And let’s start being honest about that instead of pretending that we started with some magical scripture quote that fell from the heavens.” RichardRohrOFM

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