Pete Enns & The Bible for Normal People

Interview with Pete Wehner: Faith, Politics, & Polarization

In this episode of The Bible for Normal People Podcast, Pete and Jared talk with political commentator and columnist, Pete Wehner, about the mixing of faith and politics as they explore the following questions: 

  • How has Pete Wehner’s faith informed his politics?
  • How can the mix of politics and faith be both beneficial and destructive?
  • Why is evangelical Christianity so susceptible to being co-opted by political agendas?
  • Why do evangelicals continue to support Trump?
  • How has the current political state affected the future of the church?
  • Does the media accurately portray “evangelicals”?
  • Why is it important to remain enchanted with the world?
  • How do evangelicals view Trump?
  • How has Pete Wehner seen a shift in evangelical’s view of Trump over the last couple of years?
  • How much should Christians lean on politics?
  • How can we look at younger generations for hope?
  • Is there a legitimate concern for the loss of religious freedom? 
  • How do we see an apocalyptic mindset in politics today? 
  • What has Pete Wehner learned over the years about debating politics with others?


Pithy, shareable, less-than-280-character statements from Pete Wehner you can share. 

  • “Faith should inform politics… because I think politics has to do with justice, and human flourishing and human dignity.”  @Peter_Wehner
  • “I think that throughout the history of the country and throughout the history of the world, some of the most important social advancements have happened because faith has informed how people have acted.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I’ve always been very, very wary of how easy it is for faith to get corrupted by politics and for people to subordinate faith to politics and that politics becomes a prism through which people view faith.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I don’t know that there’s been any group that is more susceptible to the temptations of power than, particularly, evangelical Christians.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “To understand this current political moment, it’s much more important to understand psychology than it is to understand politics.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I believe that sometimes viruses create their own antibodies.” @Peter_Wehner
  • “I think what we’re seeing right now is sort of the death throes of an old movement.” @Peter_Wehner

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In this episode of The Bible for Normal People Podcast, actor, comedian, and enlightened guru Pete Holmes joins Pete & Jared to talk about his interesting journey of faith and the importance of moving from reading the Bible with your head to reading it with your heart.

  • Is the point of religion really to just be a good person?
  • Why is “myth” is a good thing?
  • Pete Holmes asks: Why didn’t Adam and Eve have sex until after they left the garden?
  • What is Christianity really about?
  • How do we know we are good?
  • Why is it important to reconstruct after deconstruction?
  • Why is an atheist God’s greatest creation?
  • What is the purpose of paradox?
  • Why are patience and humility essential in a life of faith?
  • What are myths trying to tell us?
  • How much access to reality do we really have?
  • Does ultimate reality conform to the way we’ve constructed our world?
  • Why do we need to stop thinking so much?
  • Where should we look to know God?
  • Why do we need to stop objectifying God?
  • How do we disassociate with our false self?


Pithy, shareable, less-than-280-character statements from Pete Holmes that you can share. 

  • “We’ve gotten lost in worshiping other people’s experiences.” @peteholmes
  • “The way at an unknowable infinite reality is not going to be a direct line.” @peteholmes
  • “Don’t worship my transformation, get to transforming yourself.” @peteholmes
  • “God is seducing you by any means necessary to transform and convert your heart into your true self.” @peteholmes
  • “This isn’t a holding room, this isn’t a test, this is the play of the Divine.” @peteholmes
  • “We’ve created God into a thing over there so that we can think about it by virtue of how language works. But ultimate reality doesn’t conform to the way that we’ve constructed our world.” @peteholmes
  • “Religion does not summarize to be a good person.” @peteholmes

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